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It’s that time of the year again! Because the old rules thread for last year’s AGEBOC is filled with info that is not exactly pertinent anymore, I’ll repost most of the info and rules that is pertinent this year, so we can link to this one every week instead. Plus references to some extra stuff, like the bonus questions that James introduced last fall, and this awesome logo that James’ buddy Brad did for us.

Also it’s good to have a thread where people can go “Nick, you lazy/forgetful [BLEEP], you forgot [insert whatever Nick forgot here].”

Update:

– Forgot to link to the GEBOC.

Rules of the Advanced Gone Elsewhere Box-Office Challenge (aka the AGEBOC)

READ BEFORE POSTING!

The rules are as follows:

– Each Monday Tuesday an AGEBOC thread for the upcoming weekend will be posted. Your predictions for the coming weekend must be posted in the specific AGEBOC thread for that weekend.

– You predict the number one film in the US for the weekend (Friday to Sunday) along with the amount you believe it will make. Wednesday and Thursday earnings will not be tallied (remember to subtract!).

– The one who gets closest to the final amount gets 4 points. Second runner-up gets 2 points. If it is a tie they each get 3 points (if it is a three-way, 2 points, etc.).

– If a player makes a correct prediction of a film’s box-office take for the weekend within half a million, whether or not the film is #1, the player will be awarded 2 extra points, provided that the movie finishes in the top 3.

– There will be two bonus questions for every week. Each right answer yields an extra half point. What the bonus questions will be is up to whoever runs AGEBOC at the time, but they must be pertinent to the weekend in question, preferably not subjective and related to box-office prediction. Suggestions for future bonus questions are always welcome.

– Deadline for predictions for the coming weekend is midnight 11:59pm the day before the weekend’s wide releases are, well, released. So typically if the week’s wide releases come out on a Friday, then it’s Thursday 11:59. On the other hand, if it’s on a Tuesday or Wednesday or Thursday, then perhaps the deadline will be the same day 11:59pm, depending on how large the movie or movies are expected to be.

– Before the deadline has passed you must post your prediction in the specific AGEBOC thread for that weekend.

– If you wish to change your prediction, you must post a new comment in that week’s thread.

– No changes to your prediction after deadline has passed is allowed to be made. Cheaters who are caught will be punished by a subtraction of 4 points.

– The timeline of the Advanced Gone Elsewhere Box-Office Challenge will be, unless otherwise agreed, from the first large opening in May until the same weekend or the one before Labor Day.

– A player may join whenever he or she wishes, but if the player misses out on one or more weekends or deadlines no comfort points will be awarded just to make the player feel better.

Good luck everyone!

19 responses »

  1. Is there something else we should add or is this more or less good? I think two bonus questions is fair and gives everyone a chance of making a point here and there.

    Isn’t it a bit sad that the three biggest films in America this summer are likely to be Transformers 2, Harry Potter 6, Terminator 4 and Star Trek 11?

  2. Not at all because all of them look awesome. Not from a cineaste/filmic standpoint but from roller-coaster-thrill-ride perspective.

    I know you’re getting at them all being sequels, but they were all once fledgling first movies as well (maybe not Transformers)

    I don’t even know what this summer has to offer besides the big sequels.

    If GI Joe is at least as passable as audiences thought Transformers was then it could be in for a haul as well…

  3. Maybe it’s the combination of being at a wedding for three days and an insane Monday work-wise – but can someone tell me what the difference is between GEBOC and AGEBOC?

  4. but can someone tell me what the difference is between GEBOC and AGEBOC?

    One is long term predictions, the other is short term.

    With the GEBOC you can point towards what you put down at the beginning of the season and show off your prescience.

    Joe developed the game, probably because he saw you and me squabbling over what Iron Man and Hulk was going to make that summer. I wanted something where you could do it weekly, have some more discussion and tally the score. Thus the separation between the GEBOC and the AGEBOC.

    I realize now that I may have just kidnapped Joe’s baby without even thinking about it. Ehm… sorry, Joe. You want it back?

    Not at all because all of them look awesome. Not from a cineaste/filmic standpoint but from roller-coaster-thrill-ride perspective.

    It’s a bit like kicking down an open door, sure. They look well-made but I prefer something original to something that follows a pre-set formula of cgi=toys=profit. What’s making me sad is that the last summer that wasn’t dominated by sequels was 1998. Since then it’s become worse and worse. No offense to your buddy in the cgi-community, but Transformers 2 looks like absolutely gobbledigook when it comes to anything resembling coherence and thought. Eleven years ago the World War 2 movie was Saving Private Ryan, now it’s Inglorious Basterds. Eleven years from now it will probably be Captain America vs Sgt Rock. People thought the culture was getting dumbed down back then, but holy hell, look at this: G.I. JOE – The Live Action Movie.

  5. I also just noticed that you said “The three biggest” and then went on to mention 4 films…sometimes your Swedish humour eludes my keen eye

    And I can’t remember (and am currently too lazy to look it up) but I think the GEBOC was weekly, although it was binary. You either guessed the top movie or didn’t. One point or none – that’s it. No box office associated with it.

    You greatly expanded the game and its rules and created the Advanced version (though I think we can call it Annual) which was so heavily played last summer.

    James expanded it slightly further for the winter/holiday version (adding the bonus questions) and here we are today! I notice some of the rules have changed/solidified, such as the within $500k rule, the ties (3-ways? I thought we couldn’t knowingly guess the same) and the deadlines.

    This is great! I just read the history of Monopoly and how many machinations it went through before becoming “Monopoly” so this is fun for me (on a lesser scale, of course).

  6. I also just noticed that you said “The three biggest” and then went on to mention 4 films…sometimes your Swedish humour eludes my keen eye

    Ha, sometimes it doesn’t, clearly. I was going to stay to just three when I remembered Star Trek. Eff.

    And I can’t remember (and am currently too lazy to look it up) but the GEBOC was weekly, but it was binary. You either guessed the top movie or didn’t. One point or none – that’s it. No box office associated with it.

    Yes, you’re absolutely right about that! Blanked that out. Actually, we could just ignore that part of the competition and focus on just laying down the #1’s for each week. Let numbers be voluntary, since people are having a hard time with that.

    I explained the reasons for a deadline above with the long term-, short term-thing. We already have a weekly game with the AGEBOC.

    (3-ways? I thought we couldn’t knowingly guess the same)

    Ehm, well, there’s my unobvious Swedish humor popping through again. It’s possible, I suppose, but it would be pretty hard to do.

  7. I wouldn’t change a thing you’ve done this year. I like what you’ve done for AGEBOC 2 & GEBOC ’09.

    You’ve made me proud!

  8. Dude……I’m getting a little lost with all these AGEBOC, GEBOC, AGEBOC main thread, GEBOG ’09, GEBOC on the full moon, AGEBOC on every other wednesday posts…….phewww…not sure where to look…can we be a bit more user-friendly for all the newbies, maybe?

  9. They seemed to join with no problems. I think they realize that you post in the thread with the date…that’s it. It’s not only user-friendly, it’s super-user-friendly!

  10. I agree, James. I don’t see the point of GEBOC, and actually wasn’t planning on posting in that thread.

  11. Well, shit, I can just make the GEBOC into a page like any other if there’s only two or three people who feel like posting and it confuses the rest. I like the GEBOC, but (I thought) I was just going after public demand here. It’s Joe’s baby, so I’ll let him make the decision of whether we keep it up there or not.

    As for making everything super-user-friendly: how? Constructive criticism wanted, please. I appreciate opinion, but in this case solutions are needed.

    For example:

    Most people seem to like how the points are awarded (yes?). Explaining how those are divided up takes up most of the rulebook. If you look at the AGEBOC1 thread you’ll see I’ve actually removed more than a few of them.

    After that there’s the deadline: the date/deadline change (Wednesday midnight unless Wednesday wide release that week) is because certain people wait to post predictions until deadlines have passed, citing such nonsense as “work”, “two days is not enough time!” and “three days is more fun than two”. I won’t name names, but I’m one of them. You want it to be just Tuesday midnights?

    The thread for this page is accomplishing exactly what it’s supposed to do, stimulate discussion about the rules, away from the prediction thread.

  12. I think the rules are pretty clear at this point. Can’t think of any further modifications I’d suggest.

  13. Yeah, I think the rules are fine. The only modification I would make would be this:

    “If a player makes a correct prediction of a film’s box-office take for the weekend within half a million, whether or not the film is #1, the player will be awarded 2 extra points provided that the movie finishes in the top 3.”

    It just closes a loophole.

  14. Uhh…question as per the rules?

    I assume since it isn’t mentioned (that I saw), it will never be, but will IMAX showings and 3D showings ever count towards box office tally?

  15. The only modification I would make would be this:

    “If a player makes a correct prediction of a film’s box-office take for the weekend within half a million, whether or not the film is #1, the player will be awarded 2 extra points provided that the movie finishes in the top 3.”

    Added this suggestion (thanks Brian!). Have a feeling it might come into play the final week of May.

    I assume since it isn’t mentioned (that I saw), it will never be, but will IMAX showings and 3D showings ever count towards box office tally?

    Don’t they already?

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